*** rs p. 234 Last Days ***
"The present wicked system of things, which extends worldwide, entered its last days in 1914, and some of the generation alive then will also be on hand to witness its complete end in the “great tribulation.”"
Just saying!! :)
how much would a well-off witness be expected to donate?
my wife has just withdrawn a few hundred pounds from her account and refuses to tell me why so i suspect she plans to donate it as she hasn't donated for a while because she knows i don't want our money going to the organisation.
is it likely that she is feeling under pressure to make a large donation?.
Firstly, you are MARRIED - you are in a loving and trusting PARTNERSHIP - therefore she should be pooling her resources with yours for the benefit of your household. I'm damned sure I'd never tolerate such a financial imbalance in my marriage. My wife knows I trust her, and she never wastes OUR money from OUR account.
It's time to use your "headship" and get your Mrs to share the load.
Boy, she's got her cake & AND eating it!!
As for "How much is normal" for donations? For our household, (since learning TTATT) a big fat ZERO!!
so, due to recent deaths in the family i have been talking with my mom lately.
i try to say something here and there to make her go hmmmm ... so she made a comment about the millions now living will never die ...i said " wasn't that said about the 1914 generation, and we know how that went", meaning will not come true.
she thinks for a moment and said...yeah there's something new writtten somewhere in one of the magazines, but she went hmmm for a split of a second there ..lol.
Two points to put to your mother, Bella:
1) If God has always used an organization for His people, who was He using for over 1900 years, from 98 CE until 1919 CE?
2) If Christ's RANSOM bought back what was lost in Eden, then what was lost in Eden must be provided INSTANTLY, not gradually, when the time comes. Adam & Eve were never going to GROW to physical perfection - they were made that way, so Christ's sacrifice will reinstate that condition, otherwise the ransom is NOT equal to what was lost!
its been a while that i came here due to so many ups and downs emotionally.. :(.
crazy that the family is so divided now that we cannot sit and talk (even though we pretend while attending meetings).
all i can think is this line from hotel california - "you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave"... love the family so much that dont feel like hurting them.. this is killing me.. regards, miss confused!.
From what I've seen firsthand, those in my past & present congregations who fade due to apparent "spiritual weaknesses", are simply abandoned and left alone. So that is the route my wife and I will be taking when we change congregations, hopefully in a few months time.
By keeping away from "the middle of the congregation", a person is likely to be avoided, not shunned.
if i wrote a letter of da to the congregation that only said i was da'ing with absolute zero reason.
how do you think theyd respond?
obviously an anouncement but im sure rumours would then start.
JON - You have a PM
to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: branch visit in november 2014 .
dear brothers: .
on february 11, 2014, the bethel family was excited to learn that a branch visit is sched- uled for the united states.
UK - Get ready to receive a letter from across the pond telling all the faithful to congregate in Assembly Halls and Kingdom Halls the following day, in order to watch a special © 3 hour recording of Glorious Ones telling them to listen, OBEY, and be fleeced!
have been going to a few meetings to support my kids that have to go with their mother.
i knew it would be a powerful lesson for them to see how these loving people treat their father who da'd a while ago.
couple of elders tried to corner me the 2nd or 3rd time i went to remind me that i cant talk to anyone.... i however reminded them that i am not df'd and i can talk to whomever i want to.
I don't know which country you're in, but in the UK each congregation is registered as a charity, and gains great financial benefits by being such.
In view of their privileged position, I wonder if at the PUBLIC meeting you were warned about being removed for "talking" to others, you would have a very good case to present to the Charities Commission regarding your humiliating and demeaning treatment just for talking to other attendees at a PUBLIC meeting.
Perhaps if you casually mention the words "charitable status", tax-exemption", and "Charities Commisioner", to elders who challenge you, it may get them to hurry to the toilet!!
well i went on a date saturday, and while i was walking to to the restaurant i see one of the 'elders' in one of my old congregations ( central compton ) walked past me real fast .
i realized it was one of the 'elders' who protected the 'elder' who held my card ( other story ) for 8 months .
well to make the long story short other witness came, and where scared to see me back in town lol.
Why didn't they follow Jesus' command (not a suggestion!!) and treat you like "a man of the nations and a tax collector"? (Matt. 18:17)
Have they personally stopped preaching to such people? If not, then they are judging someone (YOU) as UNFIT to hear "the truth".
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we asked this person if it could be aqbout the terminology change and they said that was already read last week...... we remember the last time they did this.
got everyone all excited thinking the big "a" was coming and all it was about, was the literature would now be donated instead of charging for it.. .
Could it be the letter announcing a new department at the Branch which is going to be composed of full-time RBC professionals?
In other words, professional skills for free as the real estate empire is expanded quickly, before the lawsuits have too big an impact!!!
i remember my dear old dad (r.i.p) saying that when he had questions he waited on jehovah(tm) and got the answer later.. for the life of me i can't recall this ever happening to me......... honestly, can anyone actually recall a question that the wbt$ jehovah(tm) cleared up for you?.
"Didn't get an answer just the refs that I was querying in the first place." LOL!!
The exact same experience; I cited all the WT comments which conflicted with the Blble's proof regarding a certain topic, and the reply I received from Britain Branch told me to do some research on all the Watchtowers I'd quoted!!
They're effectively saying that the Watchtower magazine is the final word on any Bible question!!
Brain-dead!
